worst 380 pistols
The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. I own a SCCY CPX-2. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. No problems what so ever. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. All run like sewing machines. I. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. Any failure rates? Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. Hellcat 380. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. This article was total BS. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. Happy ending. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I still have the same problem. I like its feel in my hand. lol Damon really? No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. I have received grief for it as well. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. Just like Fords. A bunch. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. Because they werent reliable? capacity. One for range and one for carry. Small, accurate and reliable. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. Glock 42 4. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go The Picos have a huge fan base. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. The LCP isnt that bad. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. CM40 is my summe4 carry. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. Or the Kahr in there? Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. 8===D~. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. what a waste of time. Bodyguard were well rated. My SCCY runs like a champ. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Did they succeed? Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Its a joy to shoot. Any kind of ammo. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. Broke the ejector. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. LMFAO!!!! Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. Thank-you. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. I laughed when I got to the CM40. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Thats along what I was thinking. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. Mild. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. .40 maybe too big for a leetle sub-compact pistol. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. Super gun, works every time. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. Here is some news for you. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. NOPE! Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. And then the gall to refer to Jeremy who by the way did not bother to report that the upgraded model fixed all the issues with the first run. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. check the ammo?? I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Ive no complaints. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. If its good Ill spread the word. As in best gun LOL. I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. Best 380 Ive ever had. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. Horrible, awful trigger. No issues to complain about. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. I chose. I have a SCCY too. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Bought it brand new. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. Buy Your Tickets Today! I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. It therefore must perform when called upon. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. The Pico is top shelf. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Stainless steel through out the gun. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! . Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. If you use ratings to determine which gun works or doesnt work for you, you are a fool. . The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. Oh, it fits my hand great too. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. I shoot pocket guns all the time. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) I went through 4 LCP. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. The sccy is a great budget pistol. +1. Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. Total joke. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. Ruger LCP Max 2. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. To quote his expertise is laughable. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. Shoot to make the thug dead. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I totally agree. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. Its been reliable since then for me. Ill definitely be checking it out. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. And for sure never shot one. One of the finest pocket guns out there. . Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. I certainly wouldnt be happy. Its not. Three weeks before it was even released. either love or hate. We indicate sponsored content as such. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. Im about to order some more. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Also people need to fire them at the range. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. It came back still not fixed. It is light and works. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. Snicker. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. He says the trigger is horrible? The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. Have you ever even shot one? This gun is selling better than ever years later. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? I own a hp380. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? M&P Shield EZ .380 6. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. How is this journalisim? My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. Maybe something like this? Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. I have 2 of them. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. 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